
Thursday, September 10, 2026

Can we transform our businesses, cultures, and systems without transforming the way we operate within them? On the Bee Formless Flow Driven CEO podcast, Belinda “Bee” Murray connects with Jaclyn Orent, co-founder and CEO of the Cultural Catalyst Network. Jaclyn traces her path from losing a dream role in her twenties, through a decade of healing, wilderness therapy, and a 36-day water fast, to discovering David Hawkins’ work on power versus force. They explore self-mastery, why the way we are shapes the way we lead, how relationships carry new ways of being through entire systems, and why compassion and connection are something we can’t outsource to AI.
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